Senator Bernie Sanders has long warned about the concentration of wealth and power among the nation’s richest, and he remains frustrated by the lack of urgency from Democrats regarding the need for systemic change. As President Trump and billionaire Elon Musk exert influence, Sanders highlights the Democratic Party’s failure to address working-class needs. He is set to hold rallies in Omaha and Iowa City to encourage local Republicans to oppose Trump’s budget proposals. While he acknowledges some party members articulate effective criticisms of Trump, he insists that a fundamental overhaul of the broken political system is necessary for progress.
For the entirety of his political career, Senator Bernie Sanders from Vermont has sounded the alarm about the excessive wealth and influence held by the nation’s elite.
Currently, with President Trump occupying the White House and Elon Musk, the world’s wealthiest individual, orchestrating the layoffs of thousands of federal employees, the situation is concerning.
For Mr. Sanders, there’s little satisfaction in being vindicated. He is frustrated that more Democratic leaders do not seem to resonate with his belief that the American political system needs a profound transformation — a view that he feels was widespread last year and played a role in Mr. Trump’s election.
On Friday and Saturday, Mr. Sanders, a long-standing independent, intends to conduct campaign-style rallies in Omaha and Iowa City. He aspires for these events to motivate the local House Republicans to distance themselves from Mr. Trump as they prepare to vote on the federal budget next month.
Mr. Sanders elaborated on his plans, the current challenges facing the Democratic Party, and who, if anyone, is effectively countering Mr. Trump’s narrative. The following interview has been lightly edited and condensed.
You’ve been indicating the rise of an impending oligarchy for years, and it appears the circumstances have worsened. What do you think contributes to this, and why has the nation not embraced your warnings?
I’m not convinced that the country hasn’t been receptive to the message. When I ran for president, I took on the corporate sector, the Republican Party, and the entire Democratic establishment, starting with little recognition and ultimately securing victories in 23 states. So, I believe people were listening.
However, the political establishment tells a different story. I think the Democratic Party, in particular, has, for numerous reasons, turned a blind eye to the needs of working families, especially given that so many individuals are living paycheck to paycheck. The election outcomes reflect this narrative.
Do you believe the Democratic Party has gained any insights on its presentation since the election or since Trump took office?
Challenging individuals with vast fortunes within a corrupt political framework, where figures like Elon Musk threaten any Republican or Democrat advocating for the working class with immense primary funds, is a tough battle.
I believe Democrats are making an effort. However, what Trump has seized upon is a stark truth — our system is fundamentally flawed. While many of his proposed fixes may exacerbate the issues, the reality remains: the system is broken. Democrats need to recognize that they cannot cling to the status quo but must address the fact that we are dealing with a malfunctioning system. We must actively work to meet the pressing needs of the struggling working class.
Who do you view as effectively conveying a counter-narrative to Trump?
I prefer not to focus on individuals. There are several members in the House and Senate who are doing commendable work. However, merely critiquing Trump’s tax benefits for the wealthy and cuts to essential Medicaid and other programs is insufficient. It’s not enough to denounce his authoritarian tendencies.
In a corrupt political environment that allows billionaires like Musk to pour substantial funds into both parties, it’s clear that the system is broken, period. You can’t just make minor adjustments and expect improvements.
Do you hear anyone else making that point?
Well, you tell me.
I’m asking for your opinion.
I certainly don’t hear enough discussion emphasizing that the system is indeed broken and in need of substantial reforms, beyond mere temporary fixes.
You’re heading to Iowa City and Omaha, which is adjacent to Iowa. You’ve indicated that your current Senate term may be your final one. Have you completely dismissed the idea of running for president again in 2028?
In case you missed it, Iowa is no longer the first state on the Democratic primary calendar. So why am I going to Iowa? Can you tell me?
Are you asking me why you’re traveling to Iowa? That’s your trip.
But the point is? You’re implying that it —
I’m merely inquiring if you’ve ruled out running for president again.
Considering that I am 83 years old, I believe it’s unlikely that I will run for president again.
At present, I believe the most crucial task for those of us opposing Trump’s tax benefits for the wealthy and cuts to vital health and education programs is to persuade at least two Republicans to re-evaluate their stance in their districts and state: “You know what? I’m not going to support massive tax breaks for the affluent or cut essential healthcare services.”
There are roughly 15 House districts across America where Republicans secured narrow victories. One such district is in the Omaha vicinity, and another is near Iowa City. I, along with others, will be visiting these areas to ensure that the residents understand the stakes involved and do what they can to encourage their representatives to address the needs of America’s working class.
You were among those who stood by President Biden until the very end — even in the face of widespread calls within the party for him to withdraw. Do you now believe he should not have pursued re-election or stayed in the race for as long as he did? Do you have any regrets regarding your support?
The reason I supported President Biden was that he was advocating for an extremely progressive agenda, one that genuinely addressed the needs of working individuals in this country, an agenda which I largely endorsed. I believe this is precisely the direction the Democratic Party must take at this moment.
Lastly, I’d like to ask about Trump’s cabinet. Tulsi Gabbard, who was recently confirmed as the director of national intelligence and supported you during your initial presidential campaign, is now a Republican in Trump’s cabinet. What are your thoughts on her transition?
I won’t speculate on what transpired with Tulsi. I haven’t spoken to her in many years.
Thank you. Enjoy your trip.
Thank you very much. Goodbye.